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Anti-business tripThe case for a windfall tax has not been made03 September 2008The soft left faction Compass seems to have a slight obsession with finding new taxes to call for. Their latest campaign is the superficially attractive clarion for a windfall tax on energy company profits. I’m afraid that any kind of new tax gives ammo to the Tories. The public won’t necessarily clock that it is a tax on businesses, not them, when Cameron's PR people add it to the list of alleged stealth taxes. The presentation of the concept has been all wrong and reflects the prejudices of its originators. Luke Akehurst is a councillor and Labour chief whip in the London Borough of Hackney. He writes here in a personal capacity
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Posted by Philip Hodge on 03 September 2008, 9:13:20 PM Doesn't Stephen Twigg support the arguments for windfall tax? I thought he was chair of Progress! Very confused. Posted by East Londoner on 03 September 2008, 11:06:35 PM You ought to mention this to the Chair of Progress Stephen Twigg who is fully signed up and on board the campaign. No wonder the Labour party is so out of touch if pundits like Akehurst, who correct me if I am wrong, is a lobbyist for one of the worlds largest arms dealers/brokers/manufacturers and who recently called for a victim of the 7/7 bombings to stand in the Haltemprice and Howden by-election... callous beyond belief. That aside it seems as if the above article is written by the CBI... Why should ordinary working people always have to pick up the crumbs left by business, why should those dividends at a time when ordinary people are feeling the energy price pinch and see thier own prices treble for energy bills be more fairly shared out? At the same time as record profits announced by many of the energy companies - when the Daily Mail announced earlier this year how unfair this situation was, and that the trickle down wealth reditribution plan or 'reagonomics' had reached a point even they could not stomach... then its no wonder Labour is cruising its worst election defeat in half a century. Posted by East Londoner on 03 September 2008, 11:07:03 PM You ought to mention this to the Chair of Progress Stephen Twigg who is fully signed up and on board the campaign. No wonder the Labour party is so out of touch if pundits like Akehurst, who correct me if I am wrong, is a lobbyist for one of the worlds largest arms dealers/brokers/manufacturers and who recently called for a victim of the 7/7 bombings to stand in the Haltemprice and Howden by-election... callous beyond belief. That aside it seems as if the above article is written by the CBI... Why should ordinary working people always have to pick up the crumbs left by business, why should those dividends at a time when ordinary people are feeling the energy price pinch and see thier own prices treble for energy bills be more fairly shared out? At the same time as record profits announced by many of the energy companies - when the Daily Mail announced earlier this year how unfair this situation was, and that the trickle down wealth reditribution plan or 'reagonomics' had reached a point even they could not stomach... then its no wonder Labour is cruising its worst election defeat in half a century. Posted by Noel on 03 September 2008, 11:29:48 PM Who's administering the punishment, Compass who wants the money to tackle fuel poverty and help people save energy or the companies who are increasing fuel prices despite filling their pockets with windfall profits? “I’ll make oil companies like Exxon pay a tax on their windfall profits, and we’ll use the money to help families pay for their skyrocketing energy costs and other bills.” These aren’t Compass’ words, so who’s can they be? I’ll let you guess. It amazes me how many of you criticising the tax that oil companies have to pay when a company like BP makes £6.75 billion a year, a 23% increase on last year. Wait a minute, what BP makes in an hour, someone on the minimum wage would need to work over two years to make the same amount. Yes, you may argue that BP investment goes into our pension funds, but so what if many pensioners can't afford the fuel that BP are increasing all the time? The windfall tax will fall mostly on the petrol companies because demand for oil is more elastic than supply. The proceeds for the tax will make energy cheaper (i.e. investment in better insulation) and more sustainable (i.e. investment in renewables) for people. The cost of insulation and renewable energy is much more elastic than the cost of petrol (unless you think the UK can buy off OPEP and at the same time prevent any externalities affecting the cost?), so with greater investment to make sustainable energy solutions cheaper, people will see which energies are the most cost-effective for them. Unless the cost of oil goes down, private investors will be more likely to put their money in these solutions too, especially if they aren’t as affected by externalities that petrol is impacted by. I forgot, this also creates jobs in that sector… It would be great if you were less dogmatic about Compass as I'm sure you have a lot to contribute to the debate Posted by stephen ryan on 06 September 2008, 9:05:09 AM I think the case for a windfall tax is pretty straightforward. The energy suppliers are in effect retailers, when input costs go up, you would expect margins to tighten and see profits squeezed. In fact the opposite has happened, profits are up sixfold over the last couple of years. This profit has been made from upstream assets, that counterbalance any slowdown in profits from the retail side. As vertically integrated companies, they are to an extent immune from price changes in the wholesale market, yet are able to pass on any increase to cover losses on their retail books. If there was sufficient competition in the market, this would be impossible, but quite clearly this is not the case. It is for these two reasons - retail books making profits from rising prices (rises that have pushed people into fuel poverty) and the lack of competition in the market that justifies any windfall tax Posted by Luke Akehurst on 06 September 2008, 12:50:06 PM East Londoner, I do need to correct you, as you are partly wrong in your description of my day job. I do give government relations advice to some defence industry companies and fair play to you if you want to make an issue of that (though you will also find the loudest lobbyists for the arms industry going are Derek Simpson and Tony Woodley, who represent the people who work in it). However, you also use the words "arms dealers/brokers" which is something quite different and is the terminology used to describe the morally repugnant and usually illegal trafficking of small arms to fuel conflicts in the third world. Conflating the two is like describing someone who gives PR advice to pharmaceutical companies as advising drug smugglers and dealers. I'm also not quite sure why you think my job is relevant to this article. If I advised energy companies that obviously would affect my judgement on a windfall tax, but I don't and never have, so my views on this are those of an individual Labour activist trying to think through an important policy question. Posted by Ross Beadle on 18 September 2008, 11:30:24 AM There is a gratuitous self indulgence about the call for a windfall tax. It's more about the desire to deprive the companies of money, than the actuality of what the money will achieve in practical terms. It makes a certain brand of activist feel warm inside. But that's about it. It's not a tactic that can be repeated, for obvious reasons. I would rather the fiscal system be used to drive the energy companies towards more investment. Posted by Dan on 18 September 2008, 8:47:18 PM Luke is right. The campaign for a windfall tax is shallow in the extreme, lacking any analysis of where and how the companies in question are making profits, and looking at meaningless absolute numbers rather than profits as a percentage return on capital. It's impossible to take this kind of stuff seriously as anything other than posturing. Posted by john on 23 September 2008, 7:58:17 AM i agree with dan Posted by Paul Simpson on 13 October 2008, 10:41:51 PM On balance I think Luke has got this one right. One the face of it a 'windfall tax' is quite an attractive cost free option to help those struggling with rising fuel bills. But, it isn't a cost free option. Companies would pass on the additional costs and how would companies fund investment in new, cleaner power generation we need? This doesn't mean that these companies don't have a social responsibility, but simply imposing a windfall tax isn’t the way to express this.
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